Accusation Lecture

Dora brought the heat last night on accusation. So... got any questions, comments, revelations, problems, concerns?

Lord of the Rings fan comments are also welcome.

An Observation from Rachel

I've seen a common theme in two breakout groups I've been a part of now. Occult tricks people into thinking that "sure, it's on the occult list, but I don't mean it that way, so it's not harmful" or "I don't really think I have a problem with this stuff, I can control what I think when I see this stuff".

If you find yourself justifying your actions it's a good time to REPENT and leave that junk in the dirt where it belongs. NOTHING is worth letting this creep into your life. No book or movie or TV show is worth my freedom. Stop defending it, get rid of it and move on (really).

Occult Teaching

Sara Argenta and Erin McIntire shared with us tonight regarding the occult, or putting faith in something besides Jesus. Very eye-opening topic.

So, do you have questions about it? Comments? Were there particularly meaningful points you'd like to elaborate on? If so, we'd love to hear it...

Why We Bless

During the Bitterness week, it was shared that the process of forgiveness is to:

Repent (for you holding unforgiveness toward another)
Forgive
Release and
Bless

We shared that we want to bless so that we forgive the way the Lord forgives us - God just doesn't zero out our debt of sin, but rather fills up our account with blessings!

Another reason we bless is so that the next time when we remember the person who has offended us, we remember the blessing and not the offense.

So, keep on blessing! Your words of forgiveness and blessing are POWERFUL! Even though you may not FEEL it, things are being broken up and shaken in the spirit world.

-from Dora

Forgiveness vs. Reconciliation

Susan Levey told me about a blog from an author named Anne Jackson whose blog featured a great take on the subject. I think it's worth quoting in full. The original post is here.

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i never thought there was much difference between reconciliation and forgiveness. in my heart, it all kind of meant the same thing - letting go of pain that someone had inflicted on me. usually this involved some type of “making up” process involving apologies, sometimes tears, and a hug to make everything alright.

twelve years ago, somebody hurt me in a very painful, inexcusable way. for years, i didn’t allow myself to work through the pain as i needed to. then about a year ago, circumstances which were mostly out of my control took the wheel, and caused me to stare at this wound square in the face.

i’ve never doubted that i had forgiven this person. i feel fortunate that, for the most part, forgiveness comes easy to me. there are probably only two situations in my life that i know i still need to work on forgiving someone, but interestingly enough, this particular hurt isn’t one of them.

however, as i was processing through healing during this time, i began questioning if i really had forgiven him. sure, the scabs had been peeled off and the wounds were fresh - and it hurt…badly, all over again. something just wasn’t sitting right.

someone that was helping me through this sent me an email and said that what i was experiencing wasn’t me being bitter or holding on (which was what i was afraid of) but that i was desiring reconciliation. i wanted for this person to own up to his mistake and for everything, painful as it were, to be okay again…i wanted for the relationship to be harmonized.

later, i read this in a book:

Joseph was reconciled with his brothers when they came to Egypt in search of grain. By the time his brothers reached Egypt, he was able to stand before them and confront them because he had no inner feelings that would keep him from having a relationship of unity and peace with them. Forgiveness is unilateral. You can forgive even if [someone] never admits [their wrong doing], is never sorry, and never changes. But reconciliation requires both people’s commitment to recovery, honesty, repentance, forgiveness, and communication. Even then, reconciliation is a long and difficult process of breaking down barriers and building trust.

you may not ever be reconciled with a person that hurt you (or that you hurt). that part takes both people to work through. forgiveness is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for reconciliation.

however, forgiveness is a decision that you make, and continue to make, regardless of the other person’s choice. and through christ and grace and love, you can.

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Thanks for the recommendation, Susan! Great stuff!

Nancy's Bitterness Talk

Tonight, Nancy Wells shared with us about bitterness and forgiveness.  Does anyone have any questions or comments about the subject, or anything that came to mind for you during the lecture?  If so, tell us!

Questions about sin and the flesh

Here are 2 questions from the intro class:

1) If there is supposed to be no sin in heaven, then how could Lucifer have become prideful while still in heaven and rebelled?
2) The "sinful nature" is defined as our flesh, but isn't the soul part of our sinful nature, too, since we sin in our soul (will, mind and emotions)?